Felt Made with Water Soluble Paper

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MAKING A THIN FELT WITH A SEWING MACHINE AND WATER SOLUBLE BAGS.  
 

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MAKING A THIN FELT WITH A SEWING MACHINE AND WATER SOLUBLE BAGS.

*March 7, 1998 Pat Spark asks about this process: I read an interesting workshop description in the newsletter of the Victorian Feltmakers (Victoria, Australia). The technique is being taught by Liz Evans (on May 23). Here it is:  "In this workshop you will make a scarf of your own design, using the sewing machine technique. This involves using water-soluble plastic over fleece, embroidering over it, and then washing out. Your scarf could be thick and cozy or light and lacy. Technique can be used in many ways. Participants need their own sewing machine." Doesn't this sound intriguing? I wonder if there is any felting involved at all, or if it is the stitching that is holding the wool cloth together?
*March 8, 1998 Christine from Australia.  In Aus, you can by soluble plastic from hospital suppliers, I'm told it was designed to increase hygiene and protect laundry staff in hospitals, from accidentally contracting diseases etc... I assume it's true. Felting with this method, by laying fleece between the layers of plastic, also allows you to add wire {which has to be machine stitched into place} enabling you to better define the shape. {ie. if you placed a wire in between your work with plastic, in the shape of a leaf when you've stitched and cut out your leaf and washed it in the machine, you can twist it into fascinating shapes as the wire holds the shape in place. Have fun.
*March 21, 1998 Lucy Zercher. A short time ago there was talk about using water soluble fabric to sew  the fleece between for washing machine felting. Going through a sewing  catalogue today, I found this source: Clotilde Inc. 1-800-772-2891.  Product is called: YLI's Solv-It Water soluble stabilizer for machine  embroidery, monogramming, appliqué, cut work. Spray it away - no bulk or  residue remains! Use on TOP of fabric to keep stitches from getting  "lost" in knit fabrics, terry cloth loops from "jumping up" into  embroidery  1 yd. x 47" order # 443450   Retail $4.30 You Pay $3.44.  Also in the same catalogue you can order water soluble basting thread "YLI Wash Away Thread 100yrds." The basting thread that is strong enough to hold garments together for a fitting. Ideal for hand or machine basting.  Note: Use only on washable fabrics. order # 238117 retail $3.70 you pay $2.96.
*Feb. 2000, Denise Pilkington. Re the solvy bags, they are available from Hospital Suppliers and are used when creating machine embroidery felt. They come as very large bags about 36inch long and 26inch double. I cut the side and open out the bag and then lay wool fiber, fabric, fancy yarns then cover the other side of the bag over the fibres and pin the both layers together with large straight sewing pins every 4 inches. Then take the whole piece to sewing machine and sew all over, free machine embroidery or just in grids. removing pins as you go. Once the surface is complete soak in hot water to dissolve the solvy bags and then either throw it in the dryer to harden it or felt in usual way in blind or solar cover. I have made a vest and some scarves using this method and the felt is very fine and textured. Hope this answers your questions. I think the solvy is a seaweed or algae base.
*May 2000, Sally Webster. Sometimes I machine into wool tops sandwiched between two layers of water soluble stabilizer. You can also hand stitch into the same kind of sandwich Just dissolving the stabilizer felts the tops to an extent. Although it is allegedly cold water soluble I always dissolve in warm. You could inlay your soft, stitched felt into something else at this stage I guess. I made a lampshade with string and paper laid on top of the sandwich. Makes a pretty substantial fabric. You just see glimpses of the felt between the other materials. Nice when the light shines through it.
*May 2000, Melissa Collard. I finally worked up the courage (and time) to try felting using the water-soluble bags and the machine embroidery.  I would classify the results as only half-satisfactory.  I was making a shades-of-green/gray hummingbird on a white background.  He was supposed to be in flight, sipping out of a flower.  The bird looked pretty good, except for the beak.  I used a piece of black yarn for the beak because I wanted it to be really sharp, without the fuzzy edge from just laying a thin piece of roving down.  I think the yarn was too fat.  Anyway, I got the batt in the bag and started sewing.  I wanted to make a feather effect with the stitches, but that got tedious very quickly.  I confined the feather effect only to the main body and did largely spaced wavy stitches everywhere else.
          The dipping part.  I started with rather cold water (working in my large, galvanized tub).  I wanted to work the piece a little before the bag started to disintegrate.  According to the label, the bag should begin to disintegrate at around 120 F.  Well, the first dip in the water and the bag started to turn to slime.  I just kept rubbing, trying to keep it flat and work it between my hands.  As soon as I thought it would hold together, I lifted it out of the tub.  I rolled it in my straw mat for about 20 rolls in each direction and then finished fulling by dropping the piece gently on the table.
             The bird is pretty good and will probably end up on the back of a vest (my next new attempt), but the background didn't really have enough stitching on it to look good. There aren't any holes, but it just isn't "right".
*Sat., 01 Dec 2001. Jose Duran ask about this process.   There is a link under miscellaneous felting sources on NAFN's feltsources page for a water soluble plastic bag distributor: 'This company sells the water soluble plastic bags being used by many felters to create those unique, machine sewn felts.'And here is a description from the distributor: 'While intended as hospital laundry bags, these 35" x 37" bags can be opened to either 70" x 37" or 35" x 74" sheets. Material is a mil or two thick, reasonably tough, and reasonably transparent. It is sort of heat sealable and is easily cut with scissors or a paper cutter.'
                   Does anybody out there in felt-land have experience with ,or information about, using water sol. bags for felting? I imagine that fibers and yarns are sandwiched between the plastic and than top stitched/quilted with a sewing machine.  Next I'm imagining that the sandwich would be thrown in the washing machine for felting, or felted using regular hand methods. The water temperature must reach 140degrees Fahrenheit for the plastic to dissolve into a non-reform-able film.
*Sun, 02 Dec 2001. Angela Carnahan.  Instead of the bags, why not use just plain old Solvy Water soluble stabilizer? Since you're machine stitching it anyway, just arrange the wool between two sheets of the stabilizer (available in any fabric store) and then do your grid stitching or whatever, and you can wet the stabilizer with hot or cold water...hot dissolves it faster, cold slower, which would be desirable for the felting process. I was wondering if anyone was doing this...I had written down the idea myself in a fit of inspiration, but like so many things, had never gotten around to trying it, and now someone has not already thought of it before, they are actually DOING it! *sigh* hehehe  The method has some wonderful possibilities...you can do all the normal things you do using water-soluble stabilizer...like thread lace, beading, etc. only make felting part of the process....fun! Hope this helps!
*Sun, 02 Dec 2001 Dana Sheppard. I've never heard of this water-soluble stabilizer, but the whole process sounds really fun and full of possibilities. What do you mean by the above statement? That you would lay lace, beading, whatever on the wool, then stitch it into place when you stitch the "sandwich" together?  I'm wondering if this would be a good way to make flat pieces that would then be cut into pattern pieces for a vest or jacket...
*Sun, 02 Dec 2001. Angela Carnahan. You can make "thread lace" with water soluble stabilizer by putting double layers of stabilizer in a hoop and sewing, either free motion or with a foot. You want to consider in your design the fact that the stabilizer will be washed away, and for that reason, the "vermicelli" free-motion meandering stitch that quilters use would not work....grids, web-type designs, these work, and a little experimentation is worth a load of fun here! You can sandwich pieces of fabric or wool between the stabilizer and then stitch away with your machine, perhaps moving on to felting your wool. You can find it at Joann's, Hancock's...whatever sewing store is around. There is tear-away stabilizer too, but I find it to be messy and only use it when I sew velvet ;) As for flat pieces, I'm sure it would be good, especially if you want something that has places where only the thread shows...an "airier", lacier effect, or if you want some type of machine-sewn embellishment. I'm especially fond of putting novelty threads in the bobbin like the last issue of Threads featured.  I have only used water soluble stabilizer to make beaded jewelry and ornaments, I can hardly wait to try felting with it...you ladies have inspired me. Maybe then I'll know enough about it tell you all how it works rather than just hypothesizing! *grin*
*Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Dawn Nicholson, Western Australia.    This is the method I use. Place a fine layer of fine wool on one piece of water soluble plastic (wsp). Place texture such as woolen yarns, cotton, snips of material (shiny and coloured looks pretty), small pieces of nylon lace or bridal net, also petals from silk flowers can be used. Cover with a fine layer of wool, but only tiny wisps, add silk fibre if preferred. Cover fibre with another sheet of wsp. Hold the sandwich in place with long quilters pins. Next, lightly machine stitch (the longest straight stitch) in the way Angie mentioned.  Heavy machine sewing is not necessary. Wash as explained in previous postings, lay work flat to dry. The resulting softly felted thread lace fabric can be cut into shapes or used whole, placed on top of prepared layers of wool, prefelt or prefelted laminated (nuno) felt. Carry on felting in the usual way until it has shrunk and sufficiently fulled. This felted fabric can be used as is, or embellished with more machine/hand. embroidery, also beads etc.

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